The Board of Trade in the UK compiled records of people leaving and entering the United Kingdom, and these records are now available as Record Sets BT26 & BT27 at the National Archives, Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 and Passenger lists entering UK 1890-1960.
I decided to check in these records for Rodney and Leonard Hutchinson, two of G.H. Hutchinson's siblings who I knew very little about. I'd never met either of them. I knew that one or both of them had lived in New Zealand for a period, but that was about it...
A quick search of the two sets of Passenger Lists brought up a lot of records of folks who might possibly be our Rodney and Leonard, so I'll spend some time going through them. Two records (one outbound & one inbound) are definitely my uncle Rodney; here are the details.
S.S. Captain Hobson, Glasgow to New Zealand, departed 24 February 1953.
The passenger list includes;
Hutchinson, Mr. R.P., aged 38, Farm Worker. Last address in the UK;
9 Thorncliffe Rd., Staincliffe, Batley.
also,
Mrs. N. Hutchinson - aged 28
Miss S. - aged 6
Miss E. - aged 5
Master K. - aged 1 (all at the same address in Batley.)
All are listed as UK citizens, intending to settle in New Zealand.
R.M.S. Ruahine, New Zealand to Southampton, arrived 25 July 1958.
The passenger list includes;
Hutchinson, Rodney, d.o.b. 4/2/15, Plastic Moulding Operator. Address in UK;
31 Maitland Court, Lancaster Gate Terrace, London W2.
also,
Nora - d.o.b. 18/4/24
Sandra - d.o.b. 29/12/46
Elaine - d.o.b. 10/2/48
Keith - d.o.b. 10/2/52
Dawn - d.o.b. 22/4/56
Nora & the children are listed with this UK address;
2 Mavis Avenue, Southill, Dewsbury, Yorkshire.
All are listed as UK citizens intending to settle in the UK.
Now, how do I know these two families (1953 & 1958) are the same people? The initials and ages correspond; Dawn was presumably born in NZ. How do I know this is my Uncle Rodney? The Maitland Court address he gives on the return journey is his sister Dorothy's London address (she lived there for forty or more years; I visited her there in the 1970s.)
It is a bit of a mystery that they give different addresses in England on the return journey. Presumably the address in Yorkshire that Nora gives is her parent's or a sibling's address, just as Rodney gave his older sister's address.
Wednesday, December 24, 2008
Monday, December 1, 2008
Potts Family Photo
In clearing the house in Shenden Way I came across this photograph and took it to the nursing home when I went to visit Pam in August, 2005. I was able to identify six of the people in the group because I knew them personally; my grandparents, A.E. Snowling and Gertrude Snowling; my mother and her first cousin, David Morris; and my mother's uncle & aunt, Harold and Ethel Potts. Pam was able to identify the other six people in the family group; her grandparents, her uncle Billy, David's father & mother, and David's sister Jean.
Joshua & I visited David & Shirley Morris a couple of months ago, and I showed David the photo. He has a copy of the same photo in his collection, and was able to fill in some further interesting details. He said that it was taken to celebrate the golden wedding anniversary of my great-grandparents, Edward Coulthard Potts & Margaret Hall Potts .. they were married in May 1887, so the date of the photo was probably either that day in 1937 or some date in spring or summer of 1937 when all the family could get there (the Snowlings lived in Egypt, Pam Snowling was at boarding school in Darlington, and William Potts worked for Cable & Wireless and spent much time abroad, in the middle east, far east and the Caribbean.) David also told me that the photo was taken in the garden at his parents' house, 8 Holly Gardens, Low Fell, Gateshead. (Google Maps shows that the terraced houses in Holly Gardens have no back garden but there is a communal garden across the road.)
These are the people in the photo, and their relationship to Mr. & Mrs. Potts;
BACK ROW
A.E. Snowling (son-in-law, husband of Gertrude Potts); William Windlow Potts (son); Harold Potts (son); Alfred Morris (son-in-law, husband of Ethel Hall Potts)
MIDDLE ROW
Ethel Potts (daughter-in-law, wife of Harold); Edward Coulthard Potts; Margaret Hall Potts; Ethel Hall Potts (daughter)
FRONT ROW
Pamela Snowling (granddaughter); David Morris (grandson); Gertrude Potts (daughter); Jean Legg (granddaughter, daughter of Ethel Hall Potts & her first husband, Thomas Legg, killed in WWI.)
One reason the picture is especially valuable is that it is so complete; almost everyone is there. All Grandma & Grandpa Potts' children are present, and all their grandchildren. (Only Gertie and Ethel Hall Potts had children, Harold and Billy did not.) The only person missing is Billy's wife; either she took the photo, or she wasn't there that day.
Tuesday, April 29, 2008
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
More information about my great grandfather, John Snowling.
The person who originally wrote in to the ancestry.co.uk message boards with information about the sinking of John Snowling's ship in 1917 wrote back to give some information from the Commonwealth War Grave Commission's web site. There is a record in their database for John Snowling, with the information that he is commemorated at the Tower Hill Memorial in London.
Here is John Snowling's record in the CWGC's database. You can download a nice certificate from this record.
Searching in the CWGC site I found another relative who died in the second world war. He is Harry Snowling from South Shields, who is a grandson of John Snowling (thus, Pamela Snowling's first cousin.) He was shot down over Germany in 1944. I'm not sure if I remember hearing about him from Pam; does anyone else have a memory of this?
The person who originally wrote in to the ancestry.co.uk message boards with information about the sinking of John Snowling's ship in 1917 wrote back to give some information from the Commonwealth War Grave Commission's web site. There is a record in their database for John Snowling, with the information that he is commemorated at the Tower Hill Memorial in London.
Here is John Snowling's record in the CWGC's database. You can download a nice certificate from this record.
Searching in the CWGC site I found another relative who died in the second world war. He is Harry Snowling from South Shields, who is a grandson of John Snowling (thus, Pamela Snowling's first cousin.) He was shot down over Germany in 1944. I'm not sure if I remember hearing about him from Pam; does anyone else have a memory of this?
Friday, March 21, 2008
Pam's Stories
During the years that Pam lived alone after Hutch's death, I talked to her on the phone most mornings. I sometimes encouraged her to talk about her life years ago when conversation became difficult as a result of her increasing disability. I wrote down a few of these narratives; some of the words & sentences are hers, some parts are paraphrased.
20 July 2003
Martin's Christening.
Martin was Christened because Mary, Pam's mother's friend, wanted to be his godmother. Mary and Stanley lived in Totteridge.
In those days it was hard to get petrol because of rationing; Charles had a car, and was able to get a petrol ration to take Pam to or from the nursing home to have Martin. Pam and Hutch lived with Hutch's mother and brother (Charles.)
Those attending the Christening were Hutch's mother, Charles, Mary & Stanley, and Pam's friends from Tripoli, Tony & Jess. Tony was a doctor and Jess a physiotherapist. They all went to Mary & Stanley's after the service.
10 August 2003
The houses in Ismailia, being built by the Suez Canal Company, were built on the plan of a French house, and had big basements. There were stairs going down from the entrance hall into the basement, which was used by the French families with lots of children as a play area. Halfway down the stairs from the hall to the basement was a door out into the garden, so the children could run directly from the basement into the garden. During the war, when there were frequent air-raids, this was convenient because if you were out in the garden when the sirens went off, you could quickly get into the basement for shelter without going through the house. The bombers came over Ismailia because the canal was right there, and it was important for the British for access to the Red Sea.
Some French people had converted the kitchen into another room (because they often had many children,) and in turn put a big kitchen down in the basement, meaning that all food had to be carried up the basement stairs. Pam's parents, however, had left the kitchen in its original place.
When civilians had to evacuate Egypt because the Germans were getting close, Pam's father went to the Masonic Lodge in Ismailia (of which he was a member) and was able to let the house fully furnished to a group of army officers who were also members. They promised to look after Pam's dog while the family were out of the country.
Pam and her mother drove in the Buick to Suez, which was fifty miles away. When they got to the dock, they were told the ship was leaving for Bombay immediately. Pam's mother simply gave the car keys to a local taxi driver and they got on the ship with their few suitcases. When they returned to Egypt years later, they got the car back but after being used as a taxi for all that time is was not much good anymore.
12 January 2004
"Those were the days, before this miserable country. We had a wire haired fox terrier, which was sent out from the kennels in Uxbridge in England. My father had written to the kennels, of course at that time we didn't know where Uxbridge was. They sent it out on a ship, and we were told to pick it up at Port Said, so we went out in the pilot boat and he was sitting shivering on the deck. How he didn't fall overboard on the voyage we never knew, because he had the free run of the ship. We were told he had been no trouble at all on the voyage.
He lived with us for many years & was called Charley - Charley Barley. He lived in my mother's bedroom. He would sit by her dressing table while she did her hair. We fed him with special meat that we bought. He was a great favourite with Abdul, which was strange because Mahamedons are not supposed to like dogs. He stayed in the room by the kitchen with Abdul. We found that French people liked wire haired terriers too - a French family in our street had one too, who was Charley's girlfriend."
Unknown date. I added the dates to this narrative, otherwise it is almost verbatim
Pam was sent to school at the Italian convent in Port Said. It was convenient because it was right across the road from the house in Port Said where Pam lived with her parents. Pam's mother was happy to get rid of her with no inconvenience to herself (because Pam could just walk across the road to school.) This was when Pam was eight, so it must have been around 1933. There was a Welsh nun there who was kind to Pam. Pam spoke English at home, but all her early schooling was in Italian. On one occasion (September 1934), all the girls gathered in the school gym to listen to Queen Mary on the radio, launching the liner Queen Mary on Tyneside. Pam had been there, but the other girls in Port Said didn't know that.
When Italy invaded Abyssinia (in 1935) the children at the convent had to line up at the side of the Suez canal to cheer when the Italian troop-ships passed through with men and supplies for the invasion. Pam had to wear a black uniform; a black cape that buttoned up the back.
After four years, Pam was sent to school in England, the Towers in Saltburn. There, they weren't interested in her Italian and she had to learn to do school work in English. So, a few years later, when Pam went to Tripoli after the war to work at the hospital, she found she had forgotten all her Italian.
20 July 2003
Martin's Christening.
Martin was Christened because Mary, Pam's mother's friend, wanted to be his godmother. Mary and Stanley lived in Totteridge.
In those days it was hard to get petrol because of rationing; Charles had a car, and was able to get a petrol ration to take Pam to or from the nursing home to have Martin. Pam and Hutch lived with Hutch's mother and brother (Charles.)
Those attending the Christening were Hutch's mother, Charles, Mary & Stanley, and Pam's friends from Tripoli, Tony & Jess. Tony was a doctor and Jess a physiotherapist. They all went to Mary & Stanley's after the service.
10 August 2003
The houses in Ismailia, being built by the Suez Canal Company, were built on the plan of a French house, and had big basements. There were stairs going down from the entrance hall into the basement, which was used by the French families with lots of children as a play area. Halfway down the stairs from the hall to the basement was a door out into the garden, so the children could run directly from the basement into the garden. During the war, when there were frequent air-raids, this was convenient because if you were out in the garden when the sirens went off, you could quickly get into the basement for shelter without going through the house. The bombers came over Ismailia because the canal was right there, and it was important for the British for access to the Red Sea.
Some French people had converted the kitchen into another room (because they often had many children,) and in turn put a big kitchen down in the basement, meaning that all food had to be carried up the basement stairs. Pam's parents, however, had left the kitchen in its original place.
When civilians had to evacuate Egypt because the Germans were getting close, Pam's father went to the Masonic Lodge in Ismailia (of which he was a member) and was able to let the house fully furnished to a group of army officers who were also members. They promised to look after Pam's dog while the family were out of the country.
Pam and her mother drove in the Buick to Suez, which was fifty miles away. When they got to the dock, they were told the ship was leaving for Bombay immediately. Pam's mother simply gave the car keys to a local taxi driver and they got on the ship with their few suitcases. When they returned to Egypt years later, they got the car back but after being used as a taxi for all that time is was not much good anymore.
12 January 2004
"Those were the days, before this miserable country. We had a wire haired fox terrier, which was sent out from the kennels in Uxbridge in England. My father had written to the kennels, of course at that time we didn't know where Uxbridge was. They sent it out on a ship, and we were told to pick it up at Port Said, so we went out in the pilot boat and he was sitting shivering on the deck. How he didn't fall overboard on the voyage we never knew, because he had the free run of the ship. We were told he had been no trouble at all on the voyage.
He lived with us for many years & was called Charley - Charley Barley. He lived in my mother's bedroom. He would sit by her dressing table while she did her hair. We fed him with special meat that we bought. He was a great favourite with Abdul, which was strange because Mahamedons are not supposed to like dogs. He stayed in the room by the kitchen with Abdul. We found that French people liked wire haired terriers too - a French family in our street had one too, who was Charley's girlfriend."
Unknown date. I added the dates to this narrative, otherwise it is almost verbatim
Pam was sent to school at the Italian convent in Port Said. It was convenient because it was right across the road from the house in Port Said where Pam lived with her parents. Pam's mother was happy to get rid of her with no inconvenience to herself (because Pam could just walk across the road to school.) This was when Pam was eight, so it must have been around 1933. There was a Welsh nun there who was kind to Pam. Pam spoke English at home, but all her early schooling was in Italian. On one occasion (September 1934), all the girls gathered in the school gym to listen to Queen Mary on the radio, launching the liner Queen Mary on Tyneside. Pam had been there, but the other girls in Port Said didn't know that.
When Italy invaded Abyssinia (in 1935) the children at the convent had to line up at the side of the Suez canal to cheer when the Italian troop-ships passed through with men and supplies for the invasion. Pam had to wear a black uniform; a black cape that buttoned up the back.
After four years, Pam was sent to school in England, the Towers in Saltburn. There, they weren't interested in her Italian and she had to learn to do school work in English. So, a few years later, when Pam went to Tripoli after the war to work at the hospital, she found she had forgotten all her Italian.
Tragic Events
Here's a transcript of an article clipped from a newspaper that I found among the various Snowling papers and photos that I have at home. Unfortunately, I don't know what year it is from.. but it must be 1933 or later, as Thomas is not shown in the 1901 census as part of the Snowling menage, so he must have been born later, and he was reportedly 32 when he died.
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VANISHED OVERBOARD
Shields Captain's Fate on Oil Tanker Voyage
Captain Thomas T. Snowling (32), master of the London oil-tanker British Advocate (6,994 tons), who vanished overboard on the night of March 22-23 when 300 miles south-west of Ireland on a return voyage from Texas, was well known in South Shields, where he lived with his widowed mother in Crondall Street. A single man, he first went to sea in 1918 as an apprentice with the British Tanker Company, and made remarkable progress. When only 31 he was given command of the British Consul, and eight weeks ago, after having been home on leave, he was appointed captain of the British Advocate, which was then lying in the Tyne.
His father, Captain John Snowling of South Shields, lost his life when the steamer Vernon, of which he was in command, was torpedoed by a German submarine in the North Sea in August 1917. All hands were saved with the exception of Captain Snowling, who went down with his ship.
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Here are some details about the loss of the SS Vernon in 1917;
BRITISH MERCHANT SHIPS LOST AT SEA DUE TO ENEMY ACTION, 1914-18, Part 2 of 3
Vernon, 982grt, defensively-armed, 31 August 1917, 22 miles SE by S from Spurn Point, torpedoed without warning and sunk by submarine, 1 life lost - the Master
MARINERS – BRITISH WORLD WAR I MERCHANT SHIP LOSSES - V
VERNON; Owners: Cory Colliers Ltd, London; 982tons; date: 31.8.1917; position: 22 miles SE x S from Spurn Point; destination: Seaham Harbour – London; details: Torpedoed by submarine UB.30.
(The two references above were supplied to me by a correspondent on the ancestry.co.uk message boards after I posted a query a day or so ago.)
Here's an entry I found on the Web with the same information. The wartime career of the U-boat UB.30 can also be traced on the Web; the UB.30 was finally lost as a result of British action. She was sunk (depth-charged) by armed trawlers off Whitby on 13th August 1918.
Interestly enough, there's also information about the later career of the British Advocate easily available; she was captured in a dramatic action by a German auxillary cruiser in 1940.
EDIT: Further interesting information from wrecksite.eu about the wreck of the UB.30.
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VANISHED OVERBOARD
Shields Captain's Fate on Oil Tanker Voyage
Captain Thomas T. Snowling (32), master of the London oil-tanker British Advocate (6,994 tons), who vanished overboard on the night of March 22-23 when 300 miles south-west of Ireland on a return voyage from Texas, was well known in South Shields, where he lived with his widowed mother in Crondall Street. A single man, he first went to sea in 1918 as an apprentice with the British Tanker Company, and made remarkable progress. When only 31 he was given command of the British Consul, and eight weeks ago, after having been home on leave, he was appointed captain of the British Advocate, which was then lying in the Tyne.
His father, Captain John Snowling of South Shields, lost his life when the steamer Vernon, of which he was in command, was torpedoed by a German submarine in the North Sea in August 1917. All hands were saved with the exception of Captain Snowling, who went down with his ship.
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Here are some details about the loss of the SS Vernon in 1917;
BRITISH MERCHANT SHIPS LOST AT SEA DUE TO ENEMY ACTION, 1914-18, Part 2 of 3
Vernon, 982grt, defensively-armed, 31 August 1917, 22 miles SE by S from Spurn Point, torpedoed without warning and sunk by submarine, 1 life lost - the Master
MARINERS – BRITISH WORLD WAR I MERCHANT SHIP LOSSES - V
VERNON; Owners: Cory Colliers Ltd, London; 982tons; date: 31.8.1917; position: 22 miles SE x S from Spurn Point; destination: Seaham Harbour – London; details: Torpedoed by submarine UB.30.
(The two references above were supplied to me by a correspondent on the ancestry.co.uk message boards after I posted a query a day or so ago.)
Here's an entry I found on the Web with the same information. The wartime career of the U-boat UB.30 can also be traced on the Web; the UB.30 was finally lost as a result of British action. She was sunk (depth-charged) by armed trawlers off Whitby on 13th August 1918.
Interestly enough, there's also information about the later career of the British Advocate easily available; she was captured in a dramatic action by a German auxillary cruiser in 1940.
EDIT: Further interesting information from wrecksite.eu about the wreck of the UB.30.
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